HP Pavilion tx1220us Disappearing Wireless Network Card Fix
Correction: Not a fix. See updates below (May 21, 2009).
Broadcom 4321AG 802.11a/b/g/draft-n Wi-Fi Adapter
Hardware Model: BCM94321MCP1 P3
My HP Tablet PC (tx1220us) had the problem of not recognizing the wireless adapter hardware for a couple of weeks so I've been unable to connect to the Internet wirelessly. The Device Manager didn't show any wireless network card hardware at all, and the problem comes and goes with each shutdown. I think the problem was introduced in one of the later BIOS updates (F.1X). I was about to send my tablet back to HP for repair, and I'm glad I waited a while. I just updated to the latest version (F.20), and it seems to have fixed the issue. You might also be interested in the other software updates.
NOTE: This BIOS update seems to be specific to the tx1220us. Check before you update your tablet.
UPDATE 1: The BIOS update did not fix the problem after all. I found a forum thread about the same issue with other HP models here. I'm about to try a solution suggested by one of the users.
UPDATE 2: None of the suggested fixes worked. I will need to send my notebook back for repair.
UPDATE 3 (June 17, 2008): As a last-ditch effort, I tried turning it off and removing components (battery and DVD-drive), and after removing the DVD-drive and putting it back in, the wireless network adapter is back. It has survived several shutdowns so far. I would like to hear from anyone who tried this method specifically. Please leave a comment if it works (or not).
UPDATE 4 (June 22, 2008): It didn’t last very long, unfortunately. I’m back to wired Internet access for now, and I’ll have to make arrangements to get it repaired by HP.
UPDATE 5 (July 23, 2008): I downgraded the BIOS (F.1C) to see if it works, but it didn’t result in anything fruitful. The wireless adapter still disappears.
UPDATE 6 (September 9, 2008): My tx1220us is undergoing a motherboard replacement. What’s interesting about this whole ordeal is HP Support’s genuine blindness or lack of care. I am leaning 90% towards the latter. This blog post is the most popular entry page on my blog based on Google queries. That tells me that this wireless problem is very widespread. I would expect HP’s tech support to be very aware of this problem by now, but seems that isn’t the case. It’s either real ignorance or total disregard on their part. I suspect they don’t want to acknowledge this as a failure of the tx1000 series technical design. My HP customer service status as of today literally reads: “Failure : SERVICE ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.” That sounds about right, HP. Deep down you do know where you failed.
UPDATE 7 (September 16, 2008): HP has redeemed 10% of itself. I got my tx1220us on time; motherboard and display replaced. I don’t exactly know why the display was replaced, but it is a welcomed replacement. So far, so good. The wireless adapter is present.
UPDATE 8 (January 22, 2009): It’s been a few months since HP repaired my tablet, and I’m glad to say that my wireless adapter is still working.
UPDATE 9 (May 21, 2009): The inevitable has happened. My wireless card began to disappear again from the Device Manager, and I’m sending it back for repair. HP’s response: You can’t expect it to last forever. Of course I don’t, but requiring repair less than a year after it was bought is unacceptable, and requiring yet another repair a year after that is also unacceptable. HP, you can’t expect me to do this every summer. This isn’t “speculation.” My extended warranty ends in 2010. What then?
Tags: 802.11n, BCM94321MCP1 P3, BIOS, Broadcom, Firmware, Hardware, HP, Issues, Networking, Tablet, tx1000, tx1220us, Vista, Wi-Fi, Windows, Wireless
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They have changed the motherboard 3 times for this & luckily it all happened in my warranty period but today my tablets warranty is getting over & im now worried about it if it happens in future.
The guys at HP said this has become a large issue now worldwide & our engineers are working on it and will soon release anew bios version. But no idea when that "soon" will come. He also recommended degrading the BIOS but 4 now its working for me so i am not in a mood of BIOS degrade, also playing with BIOS is not a good hobby so I am just waiting for a new BIOS version.
That's just terrible. 3 times? My machine is still under warranty, but I haven't sent it in because I really need a computer for job applications. I really hope it can be fixed with a new BIOS update.
If this time it crashes I will do the degradation of BIOS myself!
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Jul 19, 2008 4:17 PM
I can get it to work by taking out the network card and putting it back in- but it still disappears on restart- so far- called HP and they are sending me a box- but it sounds like that this is a new problem and needs to be properly addressed before somebody rips my motherboard out or something-
I am going to wait and see - I hope it is a simple BIOS fix-
Jul 23, 2008 12:14 PM
for temp fixes..
when windows loads.. keep switching the wireless button on and off continuously.. like once every 5secs, n in 2-3restarts u have it on..
i havent switched off my laptop since........
Here's hoping for a real BIOS fix!
Jul 24, 2008 10:01 PM
Here are some steps to get your wireless working, however keep in mind that it is only temporary fix, as eventually your motherboard will completely fry, and you could end up crashing your hard drive.
Here is the instructions that is most likely to get results:
Reinstall the wireless drivers, turn off the computer, remove power cord, remove battery, press and hold power button for several seconds, replace battery, replace power cord, turn power on, press repeatedly quickly f8 to go into safe mode with networking, go fully into safe mode with networking, wait 5 minutes, restart computer.
Often just doing the safe mode method will work, if that does not work, I do the battery, power, then safe mode part. But when those simpler methods don't work, the above set of steps are most likely to work.
Aug 4, 2008 8:35 AM
have tried EVERYTHING and it seems completely random as to what will work and what will not
let's keep this post fresh so we know when if it truly software related or if hp needs to replace the motherboard
Don't buy any HP Laptop, but if you insist, then at least only buy one with an Intell motherboard.
Now more bad news:
It seems that the "new improved" motherboards that they have replaced the bad motherboards with, are having the same problem but with a new twist. Instead of causing the wireless to go out, the symptoms first start with the quick-launch buttons, then the mouse pad scroll, then the keyboards.
I sent my laptop in to be "fixed", and they replaced the motherboard with one of the "new improved" motherboards, and I have been having the above problems. Today I turned on the computer, and to my not-surprise the mouse pad failed to work at all. I plugged in a USB mouse, and it worked fine. So I put the computer back into hibernation, and then turned the computer back on, and the mouse pad is now working. I figure it is only a mater of time before this motherboard also fails to even start the computer.
My last motherboard also crashed my hard drive. I sure don't want that to happen again.
The question is, how willing is HP to admit at this time that the "new improved" motherboards also need to be replaced free of charge.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
there is a deep hardware/software issue here- like many said on the other thread with the DV owners with the same problem http://forums12.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1217879098077+28353475&threadId=1104931 - this is more likely a hardware problem because there are too many software fixes that temporarily work- one person even swapped components between 3 different notebooks and found the error followed the HARD DRIVE-
clearly we are looking at a design flaw in HP notebooks and/or Broadcom adapters that has not really been explained or fixed in over a year- with TONS of affected users like you and me-
right now I can get my system to see the WLAN after 2-5 boot-ups [no extra fiddling] and I have set it to never sleep- so I only have to deal with it once or twice a week-
looking at all these forums and threads about this one issue and so many people having HP customer service nightmares [they STILL don't really even KNOW about it! there should have been a recall!] I am going to get a USB wireless adapter dongle and try to get by until there is a real software/firmware solution- a full recall- or until the thing dies- obviously everything that has been so far done including changing the mainboard only fixes the problem temporarily- we are in this for the long haul folks (>__<)
Aug 7, 2008 1:20 PM
i then rebooted cause i had to install the updates and some drivers and, you guessed it, it was gone. im still wondering if mine is somehow involved in that update...
Aug 10, 2008 9:32 AM
I wish I could send it in for a replacement.
Aug 11, 2008 5:55 AM
Aug 12, 2008 9:17 PM
Yes it is also affecting the tx models.
And nobody has gotten the motherboard replaced, and had that replacement motherboard last any decent length of time without it too going bad.
HP is still producing bad motherboards.
What a lot of people are doing, is getting their free repair, and then selling it before it goes bad again, and buying themselves another laptop that is not made by HP.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM
I thought it was beacuse of Vista updates that were published on 08/12/08. I formatted my HDD and reinstalled Vista and it worked!...for 6 hrs. Then, the device manager just refused to show my wireless adapter. I did reinstalled Vista again, and no success.
Aug 21, 2008 9:46 AM
Aug 21, 2008 10:31 AM
Aug 24, 2008 7:12 AM
Aug 26, 2008 10:17 AM
Translation:
My solution to this problem is buying a USB wireless 802.11n.
Aug 27, 2008 4:48 PM
Aug 29, 2008 5:50 PM
-I got the general boot problem before starting to experiment the wireless failures. Now I have both.
-Before any, and some months before expiration of my warranty, I noticed that the computer hangs when I change the RTC hour from Mandriva. No hang of the OS occurs from Vists.
Model label, tx1126ea
Aug 30, 2008 7:27 AM
I've done countless things to my computer, Bio's updates, reinstalled drivers, ect. ect. NOTHING WORKS. I recently had to do a complete system restore and it still doesn't work!!
HP just keeps giving me the run-around and having me do little things over and over and over.
They have horrible customer service, even when they have my ticket number they still want me to do things that I've done multiple times since the first time I called in may. Every time "is the switch turned and a blue light on ma'am???" "is there a problem with you're router?" Please.
How long is it going to take before someone sues HP??? They have taken so many thousands of dollars from consumers to give them products that end up not working. We all DESERVE refunds or replacements.
My laptop is the most expensive thing in my apartment and one of the most important things I own. It is ridiculous that they can waste so much of our money and our time. I don't care how long we own our products. These computers are fairly new and should NOT be having these problems. Warranty or not, we all deserve new computers.
Point is, if its out of warranty and dead, keep complaining till they fix it. They may say they are not aware of the issue in this series when they talk to you, but they are. Thats why they will fixit.
I have a site i was to get started up, but been too busy. deadhp.org. I will try to get it updated with info since i got it fixed.
Sep 17, 2008 6:22 AM
I ordered and installed a new Broadcom wifi card to no avail. The tx1000 still does not see the wifi hardware.
I took it to the Geek Squad (since I am a mere amateur), who confirmed that although the card is installed correctly, the tx1000 doesn't see it. My geek could not make the laptop see it.
I called HP again late in the day, and after about 45 minutes of fruitless tinkering, the solution they came up with was... reimaging the hard drive! Due to the late hour I declined, and looked at boards like this one to try to solve the problem myself.
I have determined that I am the proud owner of what will inevitably become a $1000 doorstop.
**
Wireless goes out.
Quick-launch volume buttons random self-activating.
(starts with + button, then months later + and - buttons self activate)
Some keyboard functions will randomly refuse to work.
Random activation of the CD.
(You will feel the vibration of the CD spinning even though you are not doing anything to cause this)
Random activation of the CD eject.
(The CD tray will eject at random even though you have have been away from the computer, and nothing is using the CD)
Random refusing to work of the mouse scroll function on the mouse touch-pad.
**
Also when you send in your laptop, be sure to take out the hard drive. You don't want to send in your hard drive because they will often reimage it, and you will loose all your data.
It's really disapointing, but not supprizing that HP is still producing defective motherboards. So when you get your laptop back with the new motherboard, you can expect to have more problems shortly after getting it back.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
HP has been very remiss with addressing this issue since it is obviously a design problem. Evidence is the number of postings on HPs own forum about wireless problems and my own posting there on the TX2000 problems I have had. Patching it over by replacing the motherboard does not fix the problem.
I have little faith in the computer and would like to sell it and never buy HP again but I would feel guilty passing the problem onto new owners.
Sep 19, 2008 9:09 AM
It worked fine for one month, once the card disappeared but came back with a reboot. Now it is gone.
Two weeks later (just the other day) the system no longer boots. It powers up, but does not start the boot sequence. It just sits there with a black screen, accepting no input, with no activity on the hdd led. After a surprisingly helpful bout with HP support, I am fairly confident it is a hardware problem with the BIOS (interruption in the power on self test) or just a completely dead motherboard.
Either way, replacing the system board should fix the problem, so if anyone wants to sell me one, I'm in the market ;). Also, for you do-it-yourself-ers, I have and can send the official service and maintenance guide for the tx1000 series if you'd like to tinker with/disassemble your own model by yourself (ie at your own risk).
Sep 21, 2008 7:54 PM
Im laptop-less right now, hope there's a better solution rather than buying another motherboard with the same potential problem =S.
Sep 22, 2008 2:47 PM
Sep 22, 2008 3:12 PM
Sep 23, 2008 2:53 AM
Btw, do you know HP forum edits your postings! They alter your comments to make it sound less negative..bastards...
Sep 24, 2008 12:07 PM
http://blog.nofreebits.com/2008/09/hp-laptops-with-amd-processors-and.html
Lets see if we can get enough people to look at any one of our sites!
Sep 25, 2008 8:58 AM
Please if you could send me the service and maintenance guide for the tx1000 series.
(edania at hotmail dt com)
Got problems also with my Laptop. It won't startup, only the lights light up and nothing else.
Thanks men!
Sep 25, 2008 2:49 PM
I bought this brick to replace the other brick so I would have a reliable computer to write my dissertation. Now I'm stuck with a computer that I cannot rely on to begin working with, and one that I cannot return because I am past the 14day return date. I can only hope that HP will man up and do something when I get home at Christmas and I can get back some of the money I wasted.
So I guess you can add the new tx2500 to the list of laptops that have this issue (or at least the symptoms of)
Sep 26, 2008 8:34 AM
All of a sudden my laptop would shutdown by itself and doesn't start at all.
Power on will only bring the lights up but nothing else.
HP Technical Support told me to do a trick. shutdown, remove battery, remove power. Press and hold power on for 30 seconds, then put back the power cord. Power on again will then (sometimes) allow the system to be booted up.
Am out of US now and the only way is to sent into a US service center, so even with my warranty active am still hopeless (am stationed in HK now).
Would really appreciate if we can advertise this out and vote for a recall from HP.
Good luck everyone.
Sep 29, 2008 10:55 AM
http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/contact/chat_1.html
let them know of the issue and ask them to have a case manager call you.
I really feel HP needs to investigate this issue and work on restoring customer satisfaction with this model.
Sep 29, 2008 3:38 PM
Oct 1, 2008 7:57 AM
Oct 3, 2008 5:16 AM
Laptops should last for at least 4 years I feel like I got ripped off. This thing was constantly running hot, the 6150 sometimes reached over 100C !!! That's just crazy.
At first it disappeared and I figured no problem. I reset it but that didn't help. I took out the battery and opened up the expansion slot and applied some pressure to the card. That restored it for 1 day and then it was gone for good since. What really scares me is that even after replacing a Motherboard people say the problem returns after another year. Thanks for nothing HP!
The mouse scroll malfunctioning, has fazed into not only the scroll function not working, but the whole mouse not working at times.
The CD drive self activating and ejecting has fazed into also now having some trouble recognizing the disk in the CD drive.
I'm on my second motherboard.
I just don't want to wait too late to where it crashes my hard drive again. But my laptop is my main computer, and they will just replace it with another faulty motherboard.
Will HP ever make any motherboards that work properly for more than 3 months?
I will never buy anything made by HP again.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Oct 8, 2008 12:46 AM
I own a tx1000 laptop, and had the disappearing wireless issue occur back in March when still under warranty. Sent it in for repair, and yep they replaced the motherboard. Problem solved for about 7 months, now here again I have the same problem, only out of warranty now. Called HP and was told by supervisor that "only DV series were affected and are being recalled, the tx series is not affected". Haha total bullcrap, this problem is online everywhere. Maybe they just gotten enough complaints about this particular model, but we'll make sure they do get them. First failure occured 8 months after purchase, now 7 months. Trend? And from what I've read it seems I'm lucky it lasted that long.
I will continue bugging HP until the fess up about this crap.
Oct 8, 2008 5:02 PM
I'm not happy to say that my tx1420us has the same problem. I have Windows XP and Vista installed, and on both OS the wireless nic simple dissapeared. I did not find any solution yet.
I will wait for HP to do something about it... hopefully not for too long.
Flavio
Oct 9, 2008 7:58 AM
Interesting points Ive found here and share too. My QuickLauch slowly launch at random, cd drive ejects randomly, ir points stopped working, bluescreens 90% of the time on a fresh startup because the tv tuner isnt plugged in (so I hibernate it most of the time). Now losing the wireless has pointed me toward a huge group of people with dying HP laptops, looks like I will have to use the only extended warranty I have ever bought in my life.
Thanks for all the suggestions here everybody, kept me busy for hours today.
Oct 14, 2008 8:42 AM
forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?t=19208
Oct 18, 2008 3:26 PM
Oct 19, 2008 6:13 AM
Oct 19, 2008 2:09 PM
- TX 1000 - 18 months old
- lost wireless connectivity 6 weeks ago. Made (and paid for) HP support call which took me through various (ineffective) 'solutions suggested above.
- Need my computer daily so bought wireless USB as a temporary work-around
- Mouse has stopped working and locked up computer three times in the last month. Noticed last time (yesterday) that it is running very hot -- even though it is elevated with compleete air circulation.
- also noticed that CD drawer has self-activated today.
- getting nervous that the end is near and that I would have been better investing in a second computer rather than extended warranty.
- HP monitors, where are U? It's past time for a manufacturer's comment.
Oct 20, 2008 12:07 PM
NIC gone!
Contact HP via Phone, the web etc... they are not helping.
Lok Leung : First WiFi is not working, and then my laptop will not turn on, due to a faulty Nvidia GPU chip. I have the exact same problem with my Compaq Presario V3113AU (which is under HP's warranty enhancement program).
[An agent will be with you shortly.]
[You are now chatting with Nyla .]
Nyla : Hello Lok.
Nyla : Welcome To HP Total Care.
Nyla : Due to some technical difficulties the chat messages are delayed and I am sorry for inconvenience caused to you.
Lok Leung : Hello there
Lok Leung : Nyla, my tx1009au is dead now
Lok Leung : and it is not listed in the warranty enhancement program.
Nyla : I understand that your Notebook does not turn on in the tx1009au and unable to go online wirelessly with the v3113AU. Am I correct?
Lok Leung : yes, the V3113AU is already in the repair center.
Lok Leung : now I'm with the dead tx1009au, the HP repair center will not repair it
Lok Leung : the problem is caused by a defective Nvidia chip.
Nyla : May I know whether you are abl to see the HP logo when you turn on the Notebook. Am I correct?
Lok Leung : it turns on for a few seconds and then it shut itself down, nothing on the screen
Nyla : Alright.
Nyla : Let us isolate the issue.
Nyla : Here are few steps to perform in order to isolate the issue.
Nyla : Please follow the power drain procedure:
Nyla : 1. Disconnect the AC Adapter.
2. Remove the Battery.
3. Hold the Power button down for 30 seconds to 1 minute.
4. Put the Battery in.
5. Reconnect the AC adapter.
6. Turn on the Notebook power.
7. Restart the Notebook.
Lok Leung : I'm a very experienced computer engineer, the problem is definitely a Nvidia GPU issue
Lok Leung : I tried all your steps already
Nyla : Lok, just to confirm, I suggest you to perform the above steps and let me know the status.
Lok Leung : i just did that, same thing, it still wont turn on
Nyla : Thanks for confirming.
Lok Leung : you're welcome
Nyla : Could you please provide me the serial and product number of the notebook?
Lok Leung : hold on
Nyla : You can find the serial number, product number at the back or bottom of the computer.
For example, the serial number will be like "CNF5250724" (or) "CNF5250724DL".
Where as the product number will be like "EC186UA".
Lok Leung : s/n: CNF7052JV9
p/n: RY254PA#AB5
Nyla : Thank you for the information.
Nyla : In this regard, I suggest you to contact the nearest service center to resolve the issue.
Lok Leung : I've already contact them, they are not helping. that is why I'm here chatting with you Nyla
Nyla : I suspect that the problem might be with the internal hardware malfunction.
Lok Leung : yes, I'm 100% sure it is internal hardware malfunction.
Lok Leung : my tx1009au should be listed in the HP's warranty enhancement program
Nyla : So, this requires an Onsite diagnosis.
Lok Leung : somehow it is not listed there, and many people are complaining about it.
Nyla : You have to contact the nearest HP authorised service center to resoleve the issue.
Lok Leung : http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1274587
Lok Leung : http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1280643
Lok Leung : I went the my nearest HP service center, they say they are not going to take that machine and repair if I don't pay them money first
Lok Leung : I hope you can take this issue seriously and help us out.
Nyla : Lok, I apologise in this regard, this is a hardware malfunction and requires an Onsite diagnosis to resolve the issue.
Nyla : I think you can understand.
Lok Leung : can you talk to your manager about this?
Lok Leung : http://xiirus.net/articles/article-hp-pavilion-tx1220us-disappearing-wireless-network-card-fix-t522o.aspx
Nyla : Lok, this chat support is dedicated to US only. We do not have any information about the products manufactured and sold outside US. So, please contact your country support for mroe information.
Lok Leung : yes, I'm in Asia. HP Asia is not helping me
Nyla : Hong Kong
Technical Support ... +85 (2) 3002-8555
Nyla : I have provided you the contact number of the Honk Kong to get the issue resolved.
Lok Leung : Phoned them already 2 days ago, I spent about half an hour talking with them
Lok Leung : They can't do much about it.
Nyla : Lok, so we are helpless.
Lok Leung : I have a case number, can you follow up for me?
Lok Leung : I hope HP total care is really caring us
Lok Leung : case number: 2603598120
Nyla : This chat support is dedicated to US customers only.
Nyla : We do not have much information regarding the Non-Us customer's Notebooks.
Lok Leung : well, it is a HP product
Nyla : Yes, but this chat suppport is dedicated to US customers only.
Lok Leung : I'm not trying to be rude
Nyla : I can understand your concern.
Nyla : However, I have provided you the steps to confirm the issue.
Nyla : But,
Lok Leung : HP Hong Kong does not co-operative, who should I contact next? my lawyer?
Nyla : You have to contact the nearest service center to resolve the issue.
Lok Leung : I did and they can not resolve the issue
Nyla : However, we cannot help you in this regard.
Lok Leung : what can I do now
Nyla : Please contact the nearest HP authorised service center to get it Onsite diagnised and resolve the issue.
Nyla : Bye and take good care of yourselves.
Lok Leung : you are not helping
Nyla : Lok, I do not mean to wrap you.
Nyla : But, this requires an Onsite diagnosis as it is an internal hardware malfunction.
Lok Leung : I know, but I spent 2 grand on a brick
Nyla : We chat people can resolve the software issues with the Notebook.
Nyla : But, we cannot solve the hardware related issues on the Notebook.
Nyla : So, you can understand, we are helpless.
Lok Leung : will your manager help me spread the word?
Nyla : No one is responsible to resolve the issue.
Nyla : Thank you for using HP Total Care and giving us an opportunity to serve you through Chat Support. Please feel free to contact us if you require any further assistance. We are dedicated to providing support for your needs 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Nyla : Our exclusive Owner Services will help keep all of your HP and Compaq products up and running. Please visit our Web site at:
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Oct 24, 2008 1:32 AM
And even when you do finally get the wireless card, you will find that you have been waisting your time waiting for it, because the problem is not with the wireless card, it's with the motherboard, and HP knows it. But they like to play dumb and waist your time with other things, hoping that your warranty will run out before you make them replace the motherboard.
And even when they do replace your motherboard, they will replace it with another bad motherboard that will start giving you trouble again after a few months.
The best thing that HP can do is to give everyone their money back, and close their business.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Oct 27, 2008 1:39 AM
My experience is as follows:
-Using my laptop, everything was working fine.
-Closed the lid for around 30 mins (which i alwasy do)
-Came back to find no wireless network, which was odd
-Restarted and all was ok again.
-but now iot does not come back at all
======STRANGE=====
The strangest thing is, i flashed the bios, and then booted into ubuntu and it still isnt there, which is odd, because basically the bios should have reverted back to factory, and i havent let it into windows, but somehow its still not there.
In my opinion the problem is either some faulty hardware, which is like a ticking timebomb, and at some stage it will simply sever the connection between the wlan adaptor and the motherboard, or make the connection very flakky.
Or the problem is some sort of firmware update which does not get wiped by a bios flash.
I cant explin why it wont work in linux after a bios flash otherwise, i am vey annoyed, mine stopped working after installing nothing at all.
better fix it soon, i dont like using wires all over the flat, with what whould be a perfectly good laptop wireless connection :*(
Oct 27, 2008 8:31 AM
Sam
Oct 29, 2008 8:34 PM
Oct 31, 2008 9:18 AM
I have a love/hate relationship with it, but not exactly along the lines of folk here.
I want to be anywhere in my house and stream HDTV from a network receiver, or transfer HDTV files recorded on another Media Center box. It's always disappointing in one way or another, although in theory it should be great.
In particular, on battery I cannot force it to utilize 100% CPU. Using Vista's Reliability and Performance Monitor I can see that using the battery "usually" slams a 40% cap on CPU. That's guaranteed to make the video choppy, and HP says that's AMD's issue, not theirs or any setting I could change. Drives me crazy. I just have to drag a power adapter with me everywhere. Battery doesn't last long anyhow, and the thing runs really hot.
With Wi-Fi, I can *never* transfer a large file over a 802.11A/N connection. Within 20 seconds, the connection will drop. Within a minute or two, the connection is re-established.
Also, I can *never* stream HD at 19.39Mbps over 802.11G/N without dropouts, because every 60 seconds there *will* be a brief interruption.
I've developed some good skills with the Reliability and Performance Monitor, but have not figured out how to resolve these problems.
In theory, I love this thing.
Call and demand a supervisor, demand a case manager, demand the call center manager, demand the ceo. Keep bugging them untill they fix it.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Nov 3, 2008 5:59 AM
Mine died right after Halloween.
Nov 3, 2008 4:00 PM
Nov 6, 2008 7:00 AM
If you post on the HP forums to put pressure on these cynical people to rectify the TX1000 series problems. Then please be aware that the HP personnel are expending much time & energy either censoring or deleting the posts they do not like. (A targeted post will only last for about 4 hours)
Keep the pressure up on this despicable company by e-mailing your grievances direct to the :-
HP Chief Executive Mark Hurd http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/hurd/index.html
Below is a copy of my letter that was recently deleted by the HP censorship team
DISGRACEFUL CUSTOMER RELATIONS & A VERY UNHAPPY HP CUSTOMER
Sir,
I am a British business man working in the IT industry I therefore have advanced computer knowledge.
Last September 2007 whilst visiting America I purchased a HP Pavilion TX1220us notebook (Serial No CNF7317NRQ)from Best Buy & for the last year this unit remained in my Lisbon apartment which I use several weeks of the year. Consequently this machine has had approximately 40 hours of internet only use.
Recently I attempted to start this laptop & the following occured :-
1) At boot-up all the status lights appear healthy, the hard drive is accessed for 2 seconds only, the fan runs & the screen is totally dead.
If you type ' TX1000 series laptop dead screen problem ´ on Google there are about 100 very unhappy HP customers with the same dead screen problem and their machines usually just out of the 12 month warranty period.
In the vast majority of these cases the problem appears to be a defective motherboard and what even more worrying - a costly new motherboard only offers temporary respite before the problem reappears! My HP Total Care adviser at your Indian call center denies that there is any recognized problem & is kindly instructing me to try basic troubleshooting methods that I carried out when this critical fault first manifested itself. This morning I visited a computer repair specialist in the center of Lisbon & even they were aware that the TX1000 series of laptop had motherboard reliability issues. Finally I can only reiterate that I will pursue this matter with vigour until I receive a just response
to this unhappy HP experience!
See the following link for anybody requiring to follow through to a legal challenge regarding their useless TX1000 series notebooks :-
http://consumerist.com/5013245/possible-class-action-against-hp-over-cruddy-pavilion-notebooks#viewcomments
Finally see the following HP forum links to appreciate the full scale of this scandal
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1225899902986+28353475&threadId=1245319
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1274587
I would never buy a HP product again - even if my life depended on it!
I also intend to inform all whom will listen about my very negative experience with this company
Regards
Craig
Nov 9, 2008 7:25 PM
Nov 13, 2008 11:47 AM
Here the offer to replace the motherboard (if they can get the part) for only USS 720 + Taxes!!! So I guess I'll just have to keep using my laptop as a paperweight.
Thanks for sypathizing!!
I got a black marker and blacked out the HP name on the cover of my laptop. I don't want
anyone to see my HP laptop, and make the bad decision to buy one too.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Nov 16, 2008 9:35 PM
I have a documented conversation from HP saying that they
1) will replace the wireless and if that doesn't work
2) will replace the MoBo free of charge (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=c01087277#c01087277_identify). Even if your series model isn't listed in that site, you're still covered if you are plagued by the same problem. and if that doesn't help
3) will escalate your situation to a case manager and arrange for a laptop replacement (which I'm sure you could finagle and get a system with a better motherboard and processor).
I will document what happens with my situation.
Also, there's a class action lawsuit pending here:
http://www.sfmslaw.com/pages/cases.php?id=300
Nov 24, 2008 8:44 PM
-less than 12 months old tx1220us
- Disapearing wireless turned into gone for good wireless
- Contacted Hp with no luck whatsoever
- Ended up buying a usb wireless drive
HP Needs to get there act together or theyll end up selling laptops out a garage again.
Then the world will know about it.
http://digg.com/tech_news/HP_Ignoring_NVidia_GPU_affected_users_around_the_world
Nov 29, 2008 11:51 AM
Nov 30, 2008 7:36 PM
Dec 1, 2008 3:46 AM
Dec 1, 2008 5:25 PM
Dec 3, 2008 7:16 AM
Charles Kelly, many thanks for your post! Than really gives me some hope!
Unfortunately the URL of your documented conversation is incomplete so I couldn't check it (it would be great if you could post it again). But anyway, I'll keep insisting on my side to get the same answer they gave you.
Thanks again and good luck!
Dec 3, 2008 6:14 PM
But wait -- installing the latest Broadcom WLAN driver from the HP website (version 4.170.77.3 dated 3/21/08) has solved the wi-fi problem, at least temporarily. It appears an earlier driver lacked proper signing, and somehow Vista can reject it.
I decided to take some other forum advice: power down the radio to max power saving and likewise limit the hot, hot, hot AMD processors to around 75%. Might lengthen the life of this thing somewhat.
What a nightmare -- whether this fixes the problem or not, the machine is no longer trustworthy, so it must be replaced.
Dec 3, 2008 9:00 PM
I am so disappointed, i won't buy HP products never ever again.....
Dec 4, 2008 3:32 AM
Dec 10, 2008 1:11 PM
Dec 10, 2008 2:02 PM
Dec 10, 2008 4:39 PM
Dec 10, 2008 4:44 PM
I unscrewed the laptop to peak inside and saw that the switch is built on to the main board.
Dec 11, 2008 4:04 AM
I have the same problem on the tx1127ea. The broadcom card started dissapearing more and more often and can now not be activated no matter what. HP only recognises the problem on dv* series. This subject also comes up on the Microsoft Forums though but in conjunction with Vista and XP Patches I cannot rule out that it is not one of those. No matter though, HP needs to figure it out.
Dec 17, 2008 3:18 AM
I have a tx1320 with 14 months of life and now it has the same problem. When it turn's on, the wireless card remains with the red/orange light and nothing occurs on the screen...
I noticed that if you turn on the laptop with the wireless button pressed, it turns blue and the laptop boots.
I don't know for how longer will this be possible, but my warranty has expired. Had anyone got the motherboard replacement even after it?
Dec 17, 2008 8:41 PM
Its high time HP issues a call back!
Dec 20, 2008 9:54 AM
I talked to HP and they did not let me fix it free of cost and I told them I don't want any favors but I want to report the issue so all TX users who spent hard earned money to have a chance at owning a reliable laptop. We were cheated by this company and its a shame. I will never buy HP again and after I get this repaired (if theres a recall) I'll sell it on ebay and go for IBM or something not named HP.
Dec 22, 2008 2:17 PM
Dec 26, 2008 5:37 PM
Dec 31, 2008 2:58 PM
Also they said because of the age of the machine 14 months that there will not be a recall or any free repairs.
I can pay for a new motherboard 400$ but they could not guarantee that that it would fix the problem. After reading the above i would think that i will put the 400 towards a new lap top.
Jan 1, 2009 10:30 AM
Jan 1, 2009 12:07 PM
Jan 6, 2009 9:52 AM
Jan 7, 2009 11:48 AM
I am now counting the days for the tx2050 to go in the same way but think its still under warranty where as the tx1250 isnt and will be wise to pay for the extension and let the next person tackle the problem if it arrises as I just cant afford to be carrying this time bomb around!!!
Jan 7, 2009 2:23 PM
Jan 8, 2009 2:26 PM
Is there anything that we can do?
Jan 8, 2009 2:46 PM
Jan 10, 2009 3:12 AM
Jan 10, 2009 3:12 AM
Jan 10, 2009 11:55 AM
After talking with HP support for a long time, they suggested a fix for me that actually worked (YMMV, of course).
They had me do the following:
0. Update the BIOS to the latest version.
1. Shutdown with switch in 'off' position, then boot into Safe Mode (tap F8 until a black/white menu shows up, then choose Safe Mode).
2. Once in Safe Mode, go into device manager (Win+R, devmgmt.msc), then uninstall the broadcom device from the system. Turn off PC (switch still in 'off' position), turn back on, booting normally.
3. Once the computer is turned back on, reinstall the driver again. Reboot (switch still off).
4. Once booted again, go to Start Menu, choose Control Panel, then open the Network and Sharing Center. In the left menu, choose Manage network connections. Right click on the broadcom adapter, choose Properties.
5. Uncheck the box next to Internet Protocol Version 6. Click OK. Reboot (switch still off).
6. Once system is on fully, turn your switch to 'on' (Finally!). Now, you can leave the switch in the on position all you like.
Jan 10, 2009 1:12 PM
HP this is daylight robbery!!!
Jan 10, 2009 1:12 PM
HP this is daylight robbery!!!
Jan 11, 2009 9:50 PM
So since I bought the laptop from Costco, they have the 2 year concierge service and luckily they are going to repair my laptop free of charge. New MOBO and all. Hopefully it will last for a year and then a recall can replace the MOBO and fan permanently. I was out of the HP warranty and they couldn't do anything for me. Buy no more HP products, lets ban them from our list.
Good luck to everyone else. If you used Costco or your AmEx card I'd suggest you contact them, it may help.
Jan 12, 2009 3:17 AM
I have a tx1308nr, I've had it for just over a year and its now out of warranty. I keep it updated and polished, free of malware and registry errors... I simply know how to take care of my machine.
Well, every other machine I've ever owned eventually requires a BIOS flash. New hardware, new software, new firmware... it just works like that. So I flash from F.1E to F.20 two days ago, and when I boot up my WLAN is gone, but here's the twist: Its gone permanently.
It never comes back on, and no fix I've tried gets it back. The power switch on it does not work, reinstalling drivers does not work, I've opened the case and reconnected the Broadcom device and still doesn't work.
Here is my thread on HP's support forum:
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/board/message?board.id=Hardware&thread.id=2693
I am TheShutterBug. Login and give me some love... I need it.
Jan 20, 2009 12:01 AM
Jan 22, 2009 12:56 AM
I liked having the internet on my computer.
I don't like HP anymore.
I wish I would have gotten a macbook.
If i have to send my laptop in to get fixed, i am going to leave a turd on the keyboard just so the HP people know how it feels to have to deal with this shit.
This sucks
Jan 23, 2009 6:06 PM
Quality stuff
Jan 23, 2009 9:15 PM
Jan 24, 2009 8:24 PM
Jan 28, 2009 3:30 PM
OK. I have a Compaq Laptop, 15 mos old, out of warranty - barely - and experienced the same problem (Broadcom Wireless Card not recognized by Vista, then, soon after that one USB Port dead. Also reluctance to wake up from sleep, trouble booting when turned on.)
I tried all the recommended "Fixes" but none of them worked so I finally re-installed the original OS, backing up most and sacrificing some unimportant, personal files.
The restored OS still didn't recognize the Wireless card, the USB port was still dead, and shortley after that a second USB port right next to the first, went dead.
Stripped the startup programs down to the bare essentials, rebooted - same problem. (Notably the USB2 ports are recognized as "USB" but without power and Device manager shows it as an "Unknown USB device".
My guess is that this is a HARDWARE PROBLEM and the manufacturers haven't recognized it yet. The reason for my guess is that both the USB ports which are not working properly are next to each other and the Hard Drive - awful crowded in that particular corner. The corner where the Power COrd plugs in also has a USB2 Port and that is currently the only one working properly.
I'm going to strip the hardware down and inspect it CLOSELY. Will let you know if I find anythig interesting.
Doug
Jan 29, 2009 6:41 PM
Jan 31, 2009 6:12 PM
i have the tx1410 us notebook pc and it has the same problem with the wireless card, about 5 months ago the wireless card died but then about 20 days after it died the wireless came back again and then it was gone and i had to reboot the machine for like three or more times and it was back and then gone and so on, then the problem was every time i tried to install a new software after the installation was complete the wireless was gone, or when hibernating the computer, but that wasnt it my computer was having another problems like the wireless assistant was causing trouble, the quickplay software wanst working, the mobility center wasnt working and the quickbuttons on the lid werent working, besides all of that the system was runnin a way too slow about 10 minutes to start up and like 8 to shut down and things like that, and the temperature of the computer was really high after 30 minutes of use so warm that i could burn my legs even with jeans on, so i had no option that to do a system recovery to all factory settings, aftert the sytem recovery was done all the problems were fixed but the wifi, it still is gone i have blue light because the of the bluetooth it have never stoped working but i have no wifi, i try upgrading to windows 7 beta but the wifi didnt come back and now hp is telling me that i have to send my computer to them and pay $300usd because the warranty of 1 year already expired after 9 months of my purchase, how come this happend? i dont know, but the keep giving me excuses and stupid solutions that we all tried already without any result.
the HP tx tablepcs series might look really cool but im not buying anything else from hp
Jan 31, 2009 10:04 PM
Bought-7/07
Well my wireless went out in September(9/08) and now today i turned on my laptop and it no longer works. I turn it on and LED lights up but nothing else. I have a sneaky suspicion that these two problems may be related. i just talked to HP and they want me send it in and pay 300 dollars. By the look of this other people have also had the same problem with there laptop not working. Is there something we could do to get this problem fixed for free? Can we get together and sue HP and get new Laptops because as of right now i think i'm finished with HP. What is sad is i often recommend HP computers but i think that day has come to an end. HP will no longer be very high no my list.
Feb 2, 2009 10:23 AM
John
Feb 2, 2009 12:14 PM
If you used Amex or bought if from Costco, you can use their concierge service to repair it for free. I did and I was out of warranty by 5 months. Good luck.. and I hope HP burns down in this recession period.
Feb 2, 2009 5:29 PM
Feb 4, 2009 5:32 PM
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/hurd/index.html
I would encourage you to make a complaint about the tx series if you to are having problems. Maybe with enough complaints we could get a recall.
Feb 10, 2009 12:15 PM
I called the HP tech, paid the $49 to get online help from a guy in India. Well, at his direction, I pulled the battery and all power supplies. Pulled the memory, Ram, and Hard Drive, and still nothing. They tell me I need a new motherboard. This is on a 14-month old laptop that has been booted up (maybe) 50 times??? What a joke....
Anyone know where I can find a 1320 motherboard used or aftermarket, cheaper than the $400 price HP wants to charge?
Feb 11, 2009 2:25 PM
Nathan- Don't pay 400 you can get them down to 300. Just keep chatting with them until someone offers you a price of 300 then take it. Or call in and have them send you a box and when they try and bill you at $400 tell them the guy you chatted with early gave you a price of 300. Also what i did is checked everything i could on the repair form before i sent it in, i even noted that the battery was no good. I'm shooting for a while new laptop. I'll tell you how much they replace.
John
Feb 11, 2009 2:27 PM
Feb 14, 2009 9:02 PM
HP deserves to die...
Feb 16, 2009 1:58 PM
http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1293651
Feb 16, 2009 11:14 PM
Feb 17, 2009 6:08 PM
After three days i was surfing internet (checking emails, news) when suddenly the wireless went off!!! I couldn't connect to my home wireless network, (i have an other laptop in the house and everything was working perfectly). I don t know what happened but the wireless just went down, even if the blue light on the front side of the computer was on!
As u know a laptop without internet access is totally useless and more disappointing when A STUDENT WHO PAYS HOUSE AND UNIVERSITY BILLS BUYS FOR THE FIRST TIME A COMPUTER TO USE FOR HIS STUDIES BREAKS DOWN AFTER ONLY FEW MONTHS AFTER PURCHASE WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST FOR AT LEAST 5 YEARS!!!!
Now i ve been 1 week on the internet reading more then a thousand forums, either talking about the DV6000 series which its where all started from and as well the 'lawsuit against NVIDIA CHIP FAULT by the US SECURITY BOUREAU'.
I know and i have tried all ways to get it back working, that i am not goin to list here because i swear to God i am really tired of this situation!!!
I KNOW THE PROBLEM OF NVIDIA CHIPS THAT ARE FAULTY,
I KNOW THE PROBLEM CAUSED BY THE OVERHEATING OF THE MDA PROCESSOR THAT AFFECTS ALL ITS SORROUNDING (MOTHERBOARD, WIFI ETC)
BEING THIS A MANUFACTURING, INDUSTRY ISSUE WITH THIS PRODUCT ;
I WILL TAKE THE FOLLOWING STEPS IN GETTING A FULL REFUND OF 1.100 ⬠FROM THE RETAILER WHERE I BOUGTH THE LAPTOP (i am not goin to deal with HP ), I GOT NOTHING AGAINST THE STORE BUT THEY HAVE SOLD ME A FAULTY MACHINE AND THEY ARE GOING TO REPAY ME THE 1.100â¬, THEN THEY CAN ESCLATE THE CASE vs HP... DON'T CARE IF THEY DO!!!
Tomorrow i am going to get a full report/assessment of the machine/software issue by a professional expert (50⬠fee) that will help me back up my case in court!
Of course i am going to print out all the forums where this issue regarding TX 1000 SERIES has been discussed.
I ve counted more then 2000 pages, that will be shown to the JUDGE as proofs of the MACHINE FAILURE/MANUFACTURING SOFWARE FAILURE.
I will update only on this forum all the steps i am taking vs the retailer.
I am FILING THE CASE AT THE SMALL CLAIMS COURT IN DUBLIN, IRELAND the fee for filing the case is only 15â¬.
God help us all...i am a normal person who doesn't find money on the trees, i have got rights as all u people and u should apply yr consumer rights against MULTINATIONALS EVILS!
If u want to comment and have yr say, i will be more then glad to show yr comments to the JUDGE in court!!!!
keep u updated
an angry customer
Francesco
Feb 18, 2009 4:33 AM
Tom
Feb 18, 2009 5:22 AM
HP I AM NOT GONNA GIVE UP !!!!!!!!!!
Feb 18, 2009 12:02 PM
The problem will reoccur until HP solves it. I already replaced my mobo once in the last month and the problems back. Right now I am debating on whether to send it back or just deal with the problems because sending it back means replacing it with another motherboard and again having it fail on me. Why go through that?
- Hang on boot, lights but no display.
- No wifi.
As far as HP not knowing this issue exists, thats a complete load of crap. They know everything but aren't ready to pony up money for a recall in a recession. It's a pity what companies like this do for its customers.
Feb 22, 2009 2:06 AM
I have a tx1304. Just lost WLAN this morning. Coincidentally 1 month outside of my year warrenty.
I've tried the reboot, bios reset, new bios flash, broadcom driver update with no success.
I had a active live chat with an HP tech, the conversation is eerily similar to the posts above dating back almost a year ago.
obviously no progress has been made my HP to address these issues.
I was told to do the steps I had ALREADY performed, and also perform a system restore.
nada.
This whole ordeal is pretty poor form HP.
Feb 22, 2009 2:15 PM
Feb 22, 2009 5:52 PM
Feb 24, 2009 1:22 AM
Feb 24, 2009 1:47 AM
Feb 27, 2009 11:30 AM
Mar 4, 2009 8:40 AM
UPDATE
Well, i have sent by registered mail a request for a full refund for a defective product (tx1340ea). I have give them 5 working days to reply back, they didn't, i as today filed a SMALL CLAIM against the Retailer here in Dublin Ireland.
So i just have to wait and see ... i ll keep u updated. I do have to remind u that warranties and guarantees do NOT effect yr rights, they are just an extension up to 6 years.
Keep up writing on this blog, i will add all yr complains and show them to the Judge.
Cheers
if u want to know more and the steps i am taking here's my email francescoubado@hotmail.com
For a while there, restarting / safe mode / enabling networking on startup through bios would all help... Just randomly. Same with reinstalling the Broadcom driver from the recovery manager but... I've apparently used up all of my tokens 'cause now I've got nothing.
I'm going to try flashing bios & getting the newish driver from HP's site. This all happened two days after my warranty was up...Faaantastic. They said I had to pay $50 for them to even talk to me about it, and another sum of money to extend my warranty for another year if they were going to look at it.
Love you too, HP.
Mar 9, 2009 4:19 AM
The claim has been accepted by the district court.... now i am waiting to be called by th e Registrar.
everyone should go to small claim, all at once !!!
Mar 11, 2009 3:35 AM
Mar 13, 2009 9:23 AM
Mar 13, 2009 7:40 PM
bought May 2008 in the US.
Wifi last seen on 2009-03-11; disappeared the next day.
When I use the wireless switch, HP Wireless Assistant sees only the Bluetooth device. Wifi is gone on a hardware level, not present in the Device manager.
Mar 17, 2009 12:55 PM
Mar 19, 2009 6:25 PM
This is an issue to this many people, and still no recall.
Mar 19, 2009 6:35 PM
http://consumerist.com/5013245/possible-class-action-against-hp-over-cruddy-pavilion-notebooks#viewcomments
Finally see the following HP forum links to appreciate the full scale of this scandal
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1225899902986+28353475&threadId=1245319
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1274587
Please, rally some people to get this problem fixed.
Times are hard, and as much as I would love to go buy a new laptop and throw my tx1320 in a dumpster, i can't afford it. Nor can I afford to spend the 99 dollars for HP's tech support to tell me I need a new mother board, another $300. Ridiculous.
Also, use this link to file your formal complaint with HP-
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/hurd/index.html
GOOD LUCK,
CJ
Mar 21, 2009 6:16 PM
David
Mar 23, 2009 12:41 AM
Right now my plan is to buy a USB wireless as I can't study without WiFi....
Thanks
Mar 24, 2009 1:22 AM
Mar 24, 2009 2:08 PM
I've since bought one of the new MacBooks, which I love so far. Don't waste your money on HP. I've been very loyal (my last three notebooks were HP/Compaq) to them until now, but a combination of Vista and my TX sent me running for Mac.
Mar 26, 2009 3:55 AM
I am also in this lub and my freakin Chinese made TX1320 have ditached me. Wi-fi adaptor isn't working and I have got no reply or technical services from HP> I won't recommend anyone to buy HP notebooks.
They have inherant problem of failing wi-fi adaptor and why can't they recall their garbage?
Here I am going all around to see if it works...
Any help or suggection would be apprecaited...I don't expect any help from HP
Gurpreet
Apr 2, 2009 3:59 PM
Apr 2, 2009 5:48 PM
Unfortunately, I am not under warranty anymore since I purchased this end January 2008. I also do not reside in the US. I am lost as I don't really know what to do. Is this a lost cause?
Apr 3, 2009 8:31 PM
Apr 14, 2009 10:53 AM
i have a tx1410us.
Apr 15, 2009 7:37 AM
My wife's wireless disappeared after 6 months. They had us reimage the hard drive and install a new BIOS and drivers, which did seem to solve the problem temporarily, but when it came back within a week, they admitted a hardware fault and we sent it in for repairs. Hers has been working since then (about 7 months now).
Mine just went out, at the 13 month mark. They are refusing to service it without payment.
I have been dual-booting the Vista that came with it and the public beta of Windows 7 (which works quite well on this model, incidentally), and the wireless disappeared from both OSes on the same day -- pretty much confirms to me that it's a hardware issue, not software.
I may try swapping network cards with my wife to see if it's the NIC or the MB that's gone bad, but either way I will probably just pick up a USB network dongle (much cheaper).
It's still the last time I'll deal with HP. This just makes me mad.
Apr 20, 2009 3:51 PM
Apr 23, 2009 7:17 AM
Apr 29, 2009 6:46 PM
Recently I decided to resurrect this machine so I went to HP's parts store and purchased a new broadcom wi-fi adaptor, thinking this was the problem ($100). Replaced the part and no dice. Now I have to figure out how to return the part to HP, then try to get them to repair the tx1308nr.
May 2, 2009 5:19 PM
May 6, 2009 3:35 PM
I bought my tx1320 in November 2007. In November 2008 it wouldn't boot up about 90% of the time. I was still in warranty...so I sent it to HP and they fixed it and returned it to me. Everything was fine.
Until...here I am 6 months later and I've lost my wifi under the network adapters. And NOW it's doing the same thing AGAIN as far as not rebooting.
The motherboard isn't ACTUALLY the problem...at least it's not the source of the problem. The real problem is that the fan doesn't cool the laptop and it fries the motherboard.
HP really dropped the ball with the tx series notebooks. They are awesome machines...but the overheating problem frying the motherboard every 6-12months is ridiculous.
May 8, 2009 10:40 AM
Not it happened again, and I am nos happy because the warranty I bought told me it has to happend 3 times so they can replace my laptop.
That so injust!!
Does anyone can help me out, is HP aware and it is replacing the PCs?
May 23, 2009 9:47 AM
I must agree with tinycandi above, I think the issue is due to the laptop getting WAY WAY WAY too hot. The fan is a POS, and the laptop gets much too hot to touch in the upper-right hand corner.
I have been a loyal HP fan, my two and only laptop purchases have been from HP. I'm starting to look at purchasing another laptop as this one will be coming up on two years. This time however, I don't think I'll be considering an HP. With this many people having the same exact problem (a MAJOR problem), and HP doing nothing to try and correct it, I'm not impressed at all. I'll probably go with the new Samsungs. Sorry HP, better get your act together.
May 25, 2009 4:52 PM
Has there been any solution yet out there? COME ON, it appears that EVERYONE has the same problem. I challenge anyone that hasnt experienced a similar problem after a year of owning an HP to speak up!
May 26, 2009 1:01 PM
I've had this computer for about a year, and it has been working fine...so I was very surprised when suddenly the WLAN disappeared from the computer's devices... I don't know what to do, and so far from reading this ,all seems hopeless.... please keep updating about future developments on this issue...
Jun 1, 2009 1:12 PM
Thanks
Monique
Jun 2, 2009 12:33 AM
Jun 9, 2009 1:14 PM
Jun 10, 2009 2:10 AM
Jun 10, 2009 9:39 PM
This laptop was the worst piece of sh*t our family has ever bought.
I work in the IT environment and we have had HP computers come through the family from time to time but this laptop is definitely the worst piece of electronic equipment I have ever dealt with.
Within the first week of the warranty ending the wifi died. Now the mobo is dead.
I will be spreading the word for everyone not to buy an HP product from this point on. Very Very disappointed with HP right now.
Disappointed Customer,
Brian
Jun 14, 2009 5:05 PM
My plan of action: replace, repair then ebay while it works.
Jun 15, 2009 8:14 AM
It's been since october 2008 that my wireless device has disappeared...and guess what...my 1 year warranty expired september 2008! All right, the computer is always getting very hot (why I dunno, but it's surely not healty), so it might have damaged the network adapter. So I bought an usb wireless adapter for 10$...works perfectly :)
FEBRUARY 2009.....the computer starts not waking up and or not booting when started. I usually need to reboot it once and it worked. But i was loosing all my work.
NOW...JUNE 2009... It takes minimum 10 minutes for the fu**ing computer to boot correctly. I need to press the power switch about 50 times, plug unplug the power, remove the battery..and suddenly, after banging on the computer, the HP loading screen starts.
I am feed up with this computer..
- its too hot, i might have cancer
- the wireless device is broken
- it doesn't boot anymore like a normal computer
I could understand the electronic device would break...but what i am really mad about is the customer service of HP.
I remember calling them for the wireless problem. The guy was going to help me..he asked me about the warranty, i told him:"it end up about 6 days ago"
the answer: SORRY I CAN'T HELP YOU, warranty is expired.
What kind of human being could do this...i never asked for a free repair..i asked for some HELP!
I gave you 1500$ for this pretty piece of shit and all i have in return is my desk on fire and many many many many problems and stress everytime i use my "computer" as they call it.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH HP, i was always respecting you for the past years and even defending you...but now i am feed up.
NEVER BUY HP. thats it. Pay more for a better computer.
Both were extremely hot from day one. The first burned after 1 1/2 years of use, after the typical screen blackouts, problems turning on and rebooting.
The second already lost wireless and has the screen blackouts every now and then.
I am going to put this case up in the BBC watchdog. You should too.
Unless we make a real loud noise, HP will keep ignoring us. The problem is so big in terms of money, that HP will run away from it as much as they can.
Like many of you, I will never touch an HP product again.
Cheers,
Flavio
Jun 19, 2009 9:51 PM
HP just lose me as a consumer for ever.
Jun 26, 2009 8:47 PM
Jul 8, 2009 5:08 PM
Unfortunately, my laptop just 2 month after the warranty so the Hp customer service not even listen to my problem.
But lucky by found a computer repair shop, and fix the damage by cost me 100pound.
I just hopping some one can give me an advise sue the Hp, because problem of designing.
I won't be buy any Hp product, this is my fist Hp laptop and it will be the last hp product I even brought.
Jul 12, 2009 1:16 PM
I just discovered this thread so I am late
reporting that my HP Tx1000 WLAN card stopped
working in 2008. The wired connection still
works as does the external VGA. I reimagined
the tx 1000 as a desktop last year and it
still works with a usb keyboard bluetooth
mouse and the hardwire to router internet.
I tried HP support and of course they were
just silly. I then purchased a real laptop
and added HP to my do not buy list.
Cheers ... Dale
Jul 12, 2009 9:48 PM
Contact the customer service:need pay money since my warrant has expired for a month.
Uninstall and re-install the wireless diver in the safe mode, the power thing and battery, default the bios, unplug the DVD, tried everything i can found in the internet, but when re-star the laptop, the wireless adapter still didn't work.
Only thing i can do is buy a usb wireless adapter.
No more HP for ever!!
Jul 22, 2009 7:39 PM
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/hurd/index.html
I will emphasize that they can "serve me better" (as the website asks) by fixing this problem happening to all these people within 2 years of buying these laptops. That is too soon to be having such a major problem. There should be a recall.
Jul 26, 2009 1:05 PM
Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM
My only question is, if I were to remove the card would that keep the motherboard from continuing to degrade into a piece that won't even boot the system or will that hopefully stop the corruption? If removing the card is the answer I'll just live with a USB WiFi dongle.
Jul 29, 2009 3:09 PM
Jul 31, 2009 5:22 PM
Aug 2, 2009 4:55 AM
Aug 2, 2009 8:14 AM
I am having the same problems and the tech support people at HP have tried to play games with me having me re-install the driver like 4 times and last thing they asked to do was to re-instal my OS. So far I have spent about 5 hours on the phone trying to fix this problem and nothing has worked. When speaking to them you have to bring up the fact that this is a known problem and ask them not to play games will you - cause believe they will. They even try to get me to call my ISP, as if my ISP had anything to do with my computer not recognizing my local wireless connection.
As I am writing this post I requested to have a supervisor or Tech Support Level II representative to help me with this issue.
I'll let you know the outcome. Thanks to all of you who have posted comments, It really gives a lot of leverage from a customer perspective to know that this happened to a lot of people.
Aug 3, 2009 5:36 AM
Aug 19, 2009 3:13 PM
Can anyone give me this advice?
I really need wireless, so if I resort to buying an external usb wireless adapter, will it connect me to the internet? I was just wondereing if it was something more than the internal problem, or if I'm going to have the same problem because it's more than just the wireless card internally.
Diagnoses: Turn on- Get's on internet- will once in a while lag tremendously- then it'll say I'm not connected to any wireless routers, and doesn't give me any options for any- restart, works- and sometimes it will say that my wireless card doesn't exist. . .
HELP ME!
Aug 19, 2009 6:50 PM
Aug 22, 2009 8:32 AM
My model is tx1414. I'm glad I bought 3 year warranty at Future Shop, so 1.5 years to go. I have a usb wifi for my desktop, so will use that for now.
My concern is that mine is a tablet, and there are no other cheap ($1000) touch screen tablets out there (Toshiba's near $2000). So I can't really switch from HP.
Then again, I've had it worse: my first tablet was Gateway, and it died after just 1 year. My friend's Gateway tablet would not turn on soon after mine died. The tech support don't have a Canadian office so they won't even fix it. Don't buy gateway either.
Aug 25, 2009 2:09 AM
happened to me also! after researching on the internet, I finally realized that it's a very common problem. Have to talk to my parents tomorrow and figure out what were gonna do!
Aug 26, 2009 9:51 PM
In other forums that are talking about the hot dissipator incoming flow and other issues related with the temperature I have found one solution >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctHTF3oNdxI
Sep 12, 2009 9:11 AM
Sep 13, 2009 1:58 PM
Sep 18, 2009 2:30 PM
I have had this tx2000 for a year and a half now, and obviously they still have the same problem.
Although my computer is worse than the "little" wireless problem.
Not only it disappears on me, my computer overheats, turns off after a couple minutes, then when I restart it, it says that it cannot find the operating system. The mic also does not work, as well as the touch pad who often decides that it doesnt want to work.
What I find mostly annoying is the HP service. All of us should not have to pay to talk to a rep. After all we spent a thousand bucks on a machine that gives up on so many levels after a short period of time.
This forum has been very helpful, as I am happy to find out that I dont have the same problem.
I know my computer had to die one day, but I was hoping it wouldn't be so soon.
To contact a rep, it is sometimes useful to chat with one of them on the web, although they seem to have the same damn solution for every problem I had with my computer.
And when I told them that reinstalling the newest BIOS doesn't work, they basically say "format" and when I format and go back because nothing works, they say "well send it to us and for a couple hundreds, we'll do something".
Once again, I repeat, we should not have to pay for this, and HP is losing many customers.
They have an extreme lack of care towards their customers, and the number of messages on this page proves once and for all that Hp cares about selling a computer, but after a year we can go and **** ourselves.
Thanks for all the solutions posted though. It was very interesting and I will try many of those!
Sep 25, 2009 12:42 AM
I get it back, and wireless works fine up until now. The switch stays orange and nothing happens. I check device drivers, and only one driver (NVIDIA) shows. It does not show the wireless broadcom driver. The whole entire laptop does not recognize anything wireless, as if it has magically undergone some sort of internal change in the few minutes it took. Even the model number is showing up as something different in the computer information window?
I call tech and they have me download a broadcom driver, install it, and restart (all while online with the ethernet cable).
The computer restarts and the wireless switch turns blue. yay! I'm online again-- that was easy enough.
The laptop is extremely hot, so I put it in sleep mode for a while, as I have major homework to do later.
I wake the laptop from sleep mode, and wait for the little switch to turn blue again. Nothing. I reinstall the device driver. Nothing. I hook the laptop back up to the cable wire, manually to the network, reinstall the broadcom device driver, and the wireless works again.
I put the computer in hibernate overnight, and upon starting it up again, card has disappeared. I don't like disappearing acts. Only at circus shows. Not with technology. Technology should be reliable.
HP should have done a major recall.
Oct 5, 2009 5:30 AM
Then i will have to repalce it... with a MacBook.
I've already had Gateways fail, and fToshibas catch fire in my lap. won't touch anything Sony makes, becasue their quality really sucks, and their customer support is worse than HP's. I really like th e tablet,a nd used in 15-20 hrs a day. The battery is shot, and now with all of the news here about the motherboard, I realize an initial course of repair is not solving the issue. Too bad. This has beena durab;e unit. I have filled several hard drives with data from it. I guess its VM Ware and a Macbook Pro for the next product now.
Oct 5, 2009 2:22 PM
Here I am at HP Unhappy Client Club. I have a Tx1410US and had the same trouble as most of you. Have tried all of that solutions. All failed.
This PC is not traded in Brazil and they did not repair models not manufactured here. So I need to use an unauthoryzed shop to repair it without warranty.
How could we act togheter against HP?
Oct 5, 2009 6:11 PM
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Nov 24, 2009 8:03 AM
If you want to see the magnitude of this just look at the number of hits he has received... circa 65,000 people. There is a clearly design fault here. I have of course complained directly as most of the people on this forum have and they have some form of automated customer agent saying that someone will call and they never do. It's farcical. I would be ashamed to be in any way associated to this company as an employee. As a customer I too would never touch this brand again. I am also going to report them to 'Watchdog' on BBC as in my opinion HP is beyond reproach on this matter.
A very unhappy customer,
DJMC
Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM
After hours of troubleshooting, I believe uninstalling the HP Quick Launch Buttons DRIVER is the solution. It shows as Unknown device but wireless is working again. HP has the worst software ever. Let me know if this works for anyone else, it worked for me with win7 x64
Dec 10, 2009 11:01 PM
Jan 13, 2010 2:04 PM
Jan 16, 2010 6:09 AM
tried numerous restart - safe mode , battery out , ac out , tried to strip it down to raw components and piece back together. ( random question , other than really taking out the mother board how could any body take out the FAN ??? )
just wondering now whether to try a system restore or not ... :'(
Jan 21, 2010 9:12 PM
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Jun 28, 2008 9:04 AM
first i turned the pc off, then i disconnected the battery and the AC adapter
then i help the power switch for 30 seconds
i then reconnected the battery and ac adapter and booted up into the BIOS and then reset it by pressing F9 then i exit and saved changes and everything worked perfectly.
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